Most measures i see used with bp are aluminum to get rid of the static electricity. Cowboy action ammo for sale at buffalo arms company sells over 10,000 black powder cartridge rifles, black powder, cowboy guns, gun books, gun videos, obsolete brass, reloading supplies. Rarely is it loaded to potential from the factory because of the vast number of older. I followed his recipes and started shooting well immediately with little or no problems. Looking for some input into some black powder loads for the 45. This will help to compact the powder and also, allow you to put more powder into the case. I did find some info in my lyman cast bullet book but very little. It was originally a blackpowder revolver round developed for the colt single. This is a discussion on good all round 45 colt bullet and powder. Thus, a colt walker revolver converted to shoot the. Except a 1st gen black powder colt single action pistol. There are over 25 cartridges shown including everything from the.
Made for heavy duty volume production, this lee precision six cavity bullet mold produces. It was a formidable cartridge, used on good guys, bad guys and innumerable game, large and small. Book cbbpcr cast bullets for the black powder cartridge rifle by paul matthews. The original black powder load was 40g of ffg behind a 250g255g bullet of 120 tinlead alloy. I want anybody that wants to try work up slowly so im not giving the top loadbut the top velocity from the winchester. I looked at every reloading manual in a well equipped gun store and bought a few. The 45 colts case held 40 grains of black powder and it heaved a 250 grain bullet to nearly feet per second. Too much time was spent on things not really to do with bp reloading, but that can be skipped.
Book leemr modern reloading, second edition, by richard lee. This segment really is the story of two cartridges. Ive used bullets with smokeless lube with black powder in. If, for some reason, you were masochist and really wanted to shoot black powder loads in a modern firearm and deal with all the cleaning and corrosion issues, it would be perfectly safe. That is why the 45 schofield and the 45 colt or schofield cases trimmed to 45 acp length and used in 45 colt or 45 acp cylinders has become very popular in cass competition.
But the research i did back in 198485 for my first book on leverguns shows that the 45 colt handgun round was a proprietary round. I also suggest that you at least consider annealing the cases. Soldiers, cowboys and frontiersmen soon discovered its effectiveness against their antagonists and the horses that carried them. Twentysix years on this job has suggested the oversight regarding keiths endorsement of the. Numerous modern smokeless powders are double base in construction, containing both nitrocellulose and nitroglycerine. The gun digest blackpowder loading manual fourth edition. Cowboy action ammo for sale at buffalo arms company sells over 10,000 black powder cartridge rifles, black powder, cowboy guns, gun books. Born in 1873, this old blackpowder cartridge never seems to get its just due. I would not hesitate to hunt with a good black powder.
Although in his book cook did not mention reloading his own ammo, id hazard a guess he was using the standard factory. Just remembger that plastic in a powder measure and black powder do not get along together, i. Never mix any two powders regardless of type, brand, or source. I havent looked it up lately but wasnt that old standard b.
These loads are safe for smokeless era colt revolvers in. A good personal selection of reloading data logs, manuals, and books can answer all of your reloading questions. If every rounds youre changing powder and bullet shapes youll spend a lot. The first colt single action army revolvers were manufactured in. Primer oal inches charge weight grains velocity fps velocity standard deviation pressure psi load density 1 indicates maximum load 2 dacron. Hodgdon powder is committed to the cowboy action game by providing the widest variety of pistol, rifle and shotshell data in the industry. I make my own out of bees wax and lambs tallow and it is the best that i have personally used. Pietta 1858 bison black powder revolver 44 caliber 12 barrel brass. I was looking for a book that clearly explained how many grains to put in a cartridge for a specific weight bullet.
My question is, if planning on using black powder load on my 45. This book is the best source of information for reloading black powder rounds for the springfield trap door. Hodgdon powder, imr powder and winchester powder expressly disclaim any and all warranties with respect to any and all products sold or distributed by them, the safety or suitability. Load data for metallic cartridge loads caliber weight note type bullet mfg dia. On the other end of the spectrum are the purists that believe that you should shoot real cowboy loads whatever that is. That being the case, my initial plan is to start with a load book, lee loader, cases, primers, bullets, and lube. The original 45 colt loads using black powder ran around 950 to fps. Im sure that was a test barrel no cylinder gap but the figures are still very impressive.
A normal cowboy load using the 45 colt runs around 750 fps. I want to put a conversion cylinder in the remington 1858. Mike venturinos book, shooting colt single actions is very helpful with excellent reloading information with both smokeless and black powder. Im getting ready to begin my own little adventure in bp reloading for my. I have done a lot of black powder reloading on my sharps rifle. Midwayusa carries a full line of 45 colt long colt from all the major. Works great for reloading for those who are only reloading a few cartridges of the same caliber.
Heres the question is that 40 gr by weight or by volume. Cowboy action calibers such as 4440, 45 colt and 44 special are also covered, as well as 10, 12 and 20 gauge shotshells. Army in 1873 and served as an official us military handgun cartridge for 14 years. The round was originally loaded with a 255grain lead bullet over 40 grains of ffg black powder for a velocity of about 900 fps.
Still, even those faster powders do not perform at their best in the large 45 colt case under 200 gr or lighter cast bullets with charges less than 6. The fact remains that black powder is a lot safer than you make it out to be. There are hundreds of pressure tested black powder cartridge loads for such calibers as the 4590, 45100, 45110 and 45120. I shoot 45 colt with black powder for cowboy action and i think your bullets are not carrying enough lube to keep the fouling soft. I am looking for the best bulky powder for use in a lot of different 45 colts.
Reloading and accurizing for the 45 colt revolver part 2. Jun 08, 20 this book is the best source of information for reloading black powder rounds for the springfield trap door. Black powder is a class a explosive and static electricity will make it go boom. Reloading supplies shooting gear full store directory. Using a black powder lube may be even better, but since i very rarely shoot bp cartridges, i dont keep any on hand.
Born in 1873, this old black powder cartridge never seems to get its just due. Midsouth offers a good selection of reference books for reloading nearly any type of ammunition. To address your specific case where you say that the amount of black required to cycle a 1911 would be dangerousthink of it this way, a 1st gen black powder era colt saa in. Book lcbh4 lyman cast bullet handbook by lyman products.
Powder needs to be stored in original containers only, when not in use. And make no mistake, anything in front of a black powder 45 got peaceful shortly after ignition. The load range for this cartridge was typically 28 to 40 grains of black powder. By the mid 1970s i had discovered carbide and had my first set of rcbs. I found that a bullet alloy of 301 leadtin worked quite well. I own a few good doubleaction magnums, but my favorite saa revolvers are. Book cpbbpc casting premium bullets for the black powder cartridge rifle by paul matthews. Reloading uberti 1873 cattleman the firearms forum the. Black powder in a ruger 45 colt cartridge ruger forum. Army in 1873 and served as an official us military handgun cartridge for 14. I am thinking that a good load for target shooting would be 30 grains of goex fffg with a 200 grn. That being the case, my initial plan is to start with a load book, lee. However, i tried adding a wonder wad between the bullet and powder and noticed a big improvement. I should be able to fill the case with black powder and leave enough room for a cardboard wad and the bullet.
Mike venturinos book, shooting colt single actions has excellent instructions on loading, caring for, and shooting both black powder and smokeless applicable to all single action revolvers. Black powder was the only propellant for guns from the th century until 1886 when the french developed the first usable smokeless powder for the 8 x 50 lebel rifle cartridge. Book ldpr lymans load data book, popular revolver calibers. Look at alliants load for the 45 colt with a 250 gr cast bullet using blue dot, and herco powder. This book is great for history reference and reports how much powder the early 45 colt cartridge held for the standard weight bullet of the day. This seems to be the definitive book on bp reloading. This video is how i do it and is for reference purposes only.
I use a prs 45 cal 250 grain big lube six cavity mold and my guns are dirty after 50 rounds but the action still works from all the lube the bullets carry. May 03, 2017 this will help to compact the powder and also, allow you to put more powder into the case. Book cbbpcr cast bullets for the black powder cartridge rifle by. Men on both sides of the law quickly learned that the 45s bite was just as deadly as its bark. After a couple of cylinders, the action got real stiff from the black powder residue. On paper, the 357 magnum was the first cartridge to exceed the 45 colts muzzle energy, but. See page on powder location in case affecting fps elsewhere on pages. The following quote is again from the section of the speer reloading manual devoted to high pressure. After over 30 years of reloading, i still use 2400 in my 44s.
Lee precision mold 6 cavity 4522281r six cavity commercial quality molds. The cartridge can be easily inspected along every step of the reloading process. Which of these two cartridges was the more powerful as far as muzzle velocities and stoppin. Never substitute any smokeless powder for black powder or any black powder substitute. Ensure that there is no airspace between the bullet and the powder. Reloading the 45 colt is a great choice for reloading. It was originally a blackpowder revolver round developed for the colt single action army revolver. We offer books from all of the major bullet manufacturers as well as references for revolver, rifle and shotgun loads. This is a discussion on black powder in a ruger 45 colt cartridge within the black powder forums, part of the firearm forum category. Primer oal inches charge weight grains velocity fps.
Reloading black powder cartridges 4570 book youtube. Ok little intro for me then ill continue ive been into shooting for a while but not long ago i shot black powder revolver in 45. Black powder 45 colt loads northwest firearms oregon. Shooting black powder firearms reloading black powder cartridges by bob shell, thu, june 27, 20. May 01, 2016 how to reload, shoot and clean black powder 45lc.
Hodgdon powder is committed to the cowboy action game by providing. Black hills cowboy action ammunition 45 long colt 250 grain. Also, the handloader has many component options to produce high quality ammunition at a cost much lower than purchasing factory new ammunition. The size of the 45 colt cartridge helps to make it an easy one to reload. So now my crazy self ha decided i want a long gun that can shoot black powder so ive been looking round at marlin 1894 and rossis. Apr 02, 2016 unique really is a terrific powder for the.
Cowboy ammo shop cowboy ammunition at buffalo armsblack. First of all, there is no such thing as a 45 long colt despite what you may have read. The round was originally loaded with a 255grain lead bullet over 40 grains of ffg black powder for a velocity of about 900 fps out of the issue saas 7. There are hundreds of pressure tested black powder cartridge loads for such calibers as the 45 90, 45 100, 45 110 and 45 120. Yes, black powder is a lot of work but if you are a history buff it is worth it to experience what the original 45 colt peacemaker was really like. I used to have a ruger in 45 lc and decided to try to mimic the original black powder load for it. As i said in another post, ive been gathering up the equipment to start reloading. However instead of using the primer loading tool included in this set, i use the lee auto hand primer tool which is much faster.
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